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true to oneself v. judge not

Any thoughts on my own response another's quoted thoughts?







not to play the antagonist ... more thinking out loud:



'harm none, judge not, be heard'

sincere in my resolve

everyone should be accountable, i 'spose






i guess i'm attempting to find contradiction here, b/c where i'm at right now is to be true to myself and to others ... and there are many times that doesn't keep peace amongst loved ones/coworkers ... anyone really.



but you may be some place else ... a need to not judge ... though still leaving the ability to hold others (or hope others will hold themselves) accountable.



another thought: if one forces oneself to not judge others, does that make one false and not true to oneself and a party to the popular and accepted views of the day?



maybe judging is something that is a part of life, yet it's all in how it's worded ... something i'm not always the best at doing ... tact ... positive feedback ...



am i saying anything here?



life is a bizarre journey ... i'm not always sure i want to be taking it ... yet that eastern wisdom (where did i post that?) is telling me the harshest struggles indicate a sincere and worthy path.



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emschin
Jul. 10th, 2005 02:27 am (UTC)
This "not judging" is tricky. I haven't figured that out either. I used to have a two friends and each one of them was having an affair with a married man. One of the men had little kids. They were both pleased with themselves--didn't intend to get married--just liked the sex.

when I didn't want to hear about their affairs, each one said 'You're judging me'. I guess. I didn't tell them not to do it or give a lecture.
I just didn't want to be involved because I thought they were hurting the wife--maybe kids. One of the 'friends' said "I don't feel guilty because if he weren't sleeping with me he'd be sleeping with someone else.'
Maybe

But I felt that if I joined in confidences and treat it as alright, I was complicit in something I didn't like. Wasn't true to myself.

lost_tumbleweed
Jul. 10th, 2005 03:04 am (UTC)
But I felt that if I joined in confidences and treat it as alright, I was complicit in something I didn't like. Wasn't true to myself.

That makes sense.

Judging does come in a wide variety of shades.

I was thinking of more innocuous situations.

This is a topic to not be taken lightly it seems.
flying_blind
Jul. 10th, 2005 03:01 am (UTC)
That you would perceive a conflict between these two is not surprising. "Judge not, that you may not be judged" is Biblical, while "To thine own self be true" is from Shakespeare. The religious would undoubtedly give greater weight to Matthew and Luke than to Shakespeare. Though Shakespeare, being an English townsman of his age, was certainly steeped in Judeo-Christian values, he was also deeply influenced by the ideas of the Renaissance, which were based on the rediscovery of ancient Pagan beliefs. These words, spoken by Polonius to his son, Laertes, in Hamlet, hark back to those Pagan values rather than to Judeo-Christian beliefs.

The two sets of beliefs were frequently at odds, and it is often difficult, and sometimes impossible, to reconcile them. When they are incompatible, you just have to choose one or the other.
lost_tumbleweed
Jul. 10th, 2005 03:08 am (UTC)
The two sets of beliefs were frequently at odds, and it is often difficult, and sometimes impossible, to reconcile them.

true. look at what happened to Laertes.

Some pithy information you have here. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. The Bible is something I've only read bits here and there.

Shakespeare, is another story, yet there is still so much I need to learn from him. I wasn't the best student ... more a frightened child of the world.
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lost_tumbleweed
Jul. 12th, 2005 09:43 pm (UTC)
that makes sense ... though i'm forgetting what your inital post said ... my brain is quite foggy ... i remember the part about others possibly seeing you as judgmental?

gotta go back to your post.
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